_{Bambu lab ams prime tower Bambu lab ams prime tower, Archived post. Just click on the prime tower and move it. Nov 20, 2023 · Introducing a few purge-to objects, make the prime tower a bit small, 1h increase in print time, waste down to 64g. I changed some parameters related to flushing volumes and size of the prime tower. 4 colors: 6hr 22min. the blade is now really at right of the system and it is able to eject properly the purge. 3s / 10. com/model/4223. Re. Sep 27, 2023 · You still do get tiny wisps of purge, then it goes to the tiny prime tower, then to the purge-to objects, before finally doing the multi coloured prints. Can purge to support though if that helps. Image 6-5-23 at 10. 3 Colors: 5hr 34min. r/BambuLab • 1 yr. → Attention, it does not go into the optional prime tower, despite that one is printing before any optional object that is bound to be flushed into! Yes. I've included photos of the tests. There are three options there - flush into this object's infill, support, or just make the object out of flushed material. Bambu Lab X1C (P1P, P1S, X1E should work as well) 1. That way it primes entirely into the chute. No calibration is required. At 100% scale it doesn’t use that much purge - but still think it is worth saving the waste. Feb 11, 2023 · When changing colors, the prime tower helps clean and prepare the nozzle for 3D printing the model. Apr 16, 2023 · Here is a post to gather ideas on speeding up multi-color printing. i’m printing large petg models with pla support interface. It’s . You can actively choose the size of the prime tower and the flushing volume to reduce waste. May 25, 2023 · In my experience, the prime tower helps with reducing stringing after a filament change tho It’s not so much useful when it comes to flushing out the old color so it doesn’t wash into the new one, but with the models I printed without prime tower, it seems that I had more stringing directly after the filament changes. Nov 10, 2023 · With careful selection and sizing of purge-to objects I have managed to get purge down to practically nothing (see my thread in the AMS section for some examples). The purpose of the prime tower is not to make sure the nozzle is clean, but to make sure that it is primed, meaning filament is right at the tip and it's ready to print without missing a tiny bit. It's already possible for prime tower. 09s / 59. Stage1 1050×727 180 KB CEC7E069-4B59-4959-8766-370739186AE1 1247×845 134 KB Oct 24, 2023 · For the second color, the AMS successfully switches to the 2nd color. This is on 0. You should see that the filament extruded right away might not be smoothly extruded and it might sputter a bit. Weight of the wisps from 81 colour changes <1g - too little for my scales, plus prime tower is 4g - so might try removing it on another test. 2 mm if you want a small chamfer. These. sillygears • 21 days ago. Also I turned on lightning infill and arachne engine. Allow setting the width to be twice the diameter of the nozzle. Enabling the prime tower will only help a little, the key is really to adjust the purge amounts (and then add the prime tower. Bambu Lab Wiki: Multi color. Mar 2, 2023 · I selected the colours for my filaments(in Bambu Studio) and used the auto-calc at flush rate of 1. TLDR: You can turn it off in the slicer under the “others” tab. Just try printing without one see what happens. Prime width should be 13 mm; one central trace, bridge distance is 6. It primes the nozzle so there's less stringing once it starts actually printing that line and if you change colors in a layer you'll be glad there is one. 25g, it will only purge 0. Apr 17, 2023 · Prime tower finished : 2. Nov 9, 2023 · i’m using an ams with my x1c. You'll also get more failures. ago The flushing is to change color quickly, and the prime tower is to reduce defects, make sure the color is pure. 756×1008 48. So yes, to a degree. 1 Color: 48min. Right click on the object you want to flush into. Apr 22, 2023 · Prime tower finished :3. if you have access from sides. 04s; Ok I manage to be at 45s for 400mm³/s of volume purging between two brand new filament spool of 1Kg each, and the smallest possible purge tower I can (2mm with and 1mm³ of purge) Fulshing volume : 400mm³. This was the baseline and I'm using the settings the Bambu Lab team come up with for the flush value for each colour. You won't get great prints most of the time if you skip it. There is already an option in the slicer to purge into the object infill - but some filament will be purged out the poop chute regardless. 0s; Filament is cutted and back to purge position :5. 14 PM 1096×1142 168 KB If the top half is red and the bottom half is blue, that's just one filament purge. 33s / 5. 2 Likes. That would probably take up too much space in my setting. Ready for another test - quite pleased with this design for the makerworld xmas decoration competition. Print quality is best with both a prime tower and the purge, especially important when Support filament is used, where contamination can weaken z-axis adhesion in the base filament. 2 Colors: 4hr 48min. A few suggestions: Elephant foot: 0. Also, we will print and feature remarkable models of talented designers in order to thoroughly test the machine and AMS system. Sep 15, 2023 · For example if its normally going to purge 1g out the back, and needs to prime 0. The MMU2S is absolutely not plug and play and you need to tinker a lot before you can expect good results. if i set the flush volume to 800, i would like to poop 200, wipe and flush down the chute, poop 200, wipe and flush down the chute, poop 200, wipe and flush down the chute . The AMS is a lot more reliable then the MMU2S. Hello I am an early owner of a A1 with AMS lite. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You know when you're trying to hot glue something . These last days, I met more and more issue ejecting the filament before and after changing color. From what I understand, recent changes to the Bambu Slicer no longer allows you to use the presets for PETG on the cool plate, preventing me from slicing. Bambulab + AMS do a great job on printing . ago. You can speed up the filament change on the p1p by lowering . For example, if I remove the prime tower, it no longer displays any flushed filament, which theoretically is incorrect because some is flushed/purged every time a filament change occurs (see second image). You prime once for 2 or 3 models as the layers are all the same. Dual automated bed leveling for doubly guaranteed prints. To be clear, the tower you’re thinking of is a prime tower, to make sure the nozzle is primed and there is an adequate amount of pressure in the nozzle when switching materials. I thought it might be the prime tower, but disabling that . I have two colors, one in PETG and another in PLA. I generally start with 2x the recommended prime tower volume, then observe how much of the . Sep 7, 2023 · For example if its normally going to purge 1g out the back, and needs to prime 0. May 10, 2023 · The most important thing to me, is to have good outside finish. This could mean using 0. The thing is now that after resuming the print, the nozzle always will leave gunk at the starting point of the layer. Sep 30, 2023 · The Bambu P1S costs $699 / £639, or $949 / £869 for the Combo version. I printed without any prime/purge block. 15s Nov 12, 2023 · The value “Flushing Volumes” set by the user in Bambu Studio is the amount of filament in mm³ that is to be pooped or be flushed into an object. Hello, With the help of AMS hub, multiple AMS can work in parallel, each AMS supports 4 colors, and 4 AMS will support up to 16 colors. You can buy a P1S directly from Bambu’s website. Minimize the number of layers that have multiple colors. Nov 17, 2023 · Introducing a few purge-to objects, make the prime tower a bit small, 1h increase in print time, waste down to 64g. Printed on PEI plate. My print, outside of the prime tower, only ever has PLA touching the cool plate. Just uncheck the prime tower. Welcome to Bambu Lab! Here we discuss everything related to Bambu Lab 3D printers. 1 This is why Bambu Studio recommends a tower both for filament changes and for other settings that lead to interruptions (like “smooth” timelapse, which parks the toolhead between layers), and why the slicer settings call it a “prime tower” instead using terms like “purge block” or “wipe tower” like you might find with other . . 3 in the support setting assign support interface to the ams spool for the support w fillament. 28 layer height rather than 0. Right click > Flush Options > Flush into this object. 0s; Filament cutting (T gcode) : 10. Hopefully they give us more adjustments in . So I rotate the model and tried to print with support inside, using AMS and PLA support. r/BambuLab. 0,16mm 0,4 nozzle, almost stock settings, differences: seam positions random; Please fix the setting "Purge to Object" to be activated without "Prime Tower" ( I don't see reason why a Purge/Prime tower is need if we are flushing everything to an object ), Purge to Object : the object could be forced to increase the size to cover up for the color change or adapt the specific layer's infill for the layer to cover up for . I tried in building a manual "prime tower" by adding a Cube in Bambu Studio but I cannot bring . 2 based on some experiments I did, When you increase the prime lengths it doesn’t seem to reduce the flush totals - so the prime lengths are I think added to the model total . This way we avoid blobs or gaps in the final print. 03/10/2023 : You can find the last optimized g-code to change filament and vote for it here in the PR made for Bambu Studio : To make thing easier and centralise everything, I’ll post all further updates as raw text on a message on Github (link above) when/if I update the g-code. Head to my project called Reduce Purge Waste with Bambu Lab AMS on Printables. If that size/volume is not needed purely for priming for that layer, it still needs to put the same amount of filament on the prime tower to complete it, so it cuts the purge (out the back) short, and puts a little of that purge in the prime tower. The unit of nozzle on the create printer page is changed to mm. Sep 7, 2023 · For example if its normally going to purge 1g out the back, and needs to prime 0. Regardless its still redundant because the nozzle will have just finished purging and wiping the tip. Jeepin95 September 15, 2023, 1:15pm 5 Mar 22, 2023 · This video takes a look at the effects of different prime towers on the Bambu Labs X1-Carbon. 95g and then purge/prime 0. Ordinary-Depth-7835. 8 KB. In the next release, we plan to separate the prime tower consumption from the color print. 25g, then instead of wasting 1. 0s / 0. Just note that you also need the AMS Hub to connect more than one AMS to the P1S. You can adjust the prime tower volume in the "Others" section of the settings. It prints a prime tower just fine, and then as soon as it resumes the normal print, the extruder clogs and then sits there and spins. Overall though I call this a success. ¶ Does the AMS support PA-CF filament? Moving prime tower and calibration lines. i need to do high flush volumes on filament changes so as not to mix the pla with the petg model as it will make the print weak. Nov 16, 2022 · The purpose of the prime tower is to build pressure back up in the nozzle and eliminate possible air bubbles that form when hot filament is extruded straight out of the nozzle with nothing under it. Thanks. It is still recommended to have it as sometimes it will still have a bit left in the nozzle after purging into the poop shoot. printables. VRBabe15. Prime Tower: I see this as extra flush with added benefit of normalizing flow before going back to print. Oct 21, 2022 · So, this printer intrigued me. But if you are doing multiple color changes at multiple layers, it is best to keep it on. Print multiple parts and glue them. I'd like to print a temp tower and setup a custom profile for this roll. No prime tower is required, and up to 16 separate spools (color or material) can be used in a single print. Bambu support says this 2023-12-02 04:32:53. Oct 19, 2022 · Prime tower consumption is included in "Color print". Sep 15, 2023 · That is the purpose of the prime tower, but the prime tower has is set at a desired size and volume. STLs for the test model: https://www. Dec 15, 2023 · Bambu Lab X1C (P1P, P1S, X1E should work as well) 1. May 11, 2023 · Turn the prime tower off not needed for this part with support interface it’s only needed for color changes on some models. 2 check the box to purge into support and infill this will use purge filament for those pieces. With RFID technology, Bambu Lab AMS identifies filament loaded inside and automatically configures the most appropriate print settings. Has anyone tried seeing how far you can turn down the prime volume (from the default 45 mm 3) and still get good quality multi-material prints? 4 Sort by: Open comment sort options 1 BambuLab_SupportTeam • 2 yr. Or print multiple of the same model as the. 82s / 17. Select 'Flush Options'. The problem with the layer shift can be avoided simply with not using the Unload/ Load function and changing the filament manually. SKOZ1911. One of calibration towers for 4 colors. That's because it's not a purge tower it's a prime tower. Thanks again, Nigel. Slice a small test model and just try it out. 3s You can uncheck the prime tower in the "others" tab, in Bambu Studio. careyrob November 1, 2023, 2:47pm 3. I got this issue when printing on X1C + AMS with "holes" in layers starting at approx 96mm up to 104mm. I . Instead of multi-color or multi-material being additional nozzles or an addon, it's integrated into the machine, albeit as a separate unit. Dec 7, 2023 · In our review, we will delve into the P1S’s Pros and Cons, evaluating print quality, speed, and the effectiveness of the AMS system. 25g, so your total waste is 1. For example if its normally going to purge 1g . Fix the issue of displaying long filament names causing the dialog to exceed the screen. You can change the size and volume of prime tower which may help. com . Nov 1, 2023 · A1 Flushing system design issue? molusk77 November 1, 2023, 1:26pm 1. Update : I printed this Bambu Lab A1 mini purge wiper fix (temporary fix till next firmware version) by zemistr - MakerWorld. You can hook up to 4 AMS to a single printer with an accessory called AMS hub, so it is up to 4*4, or 16 colors or materials. If you already have the P1S or want more than four colours you can buy the AMS separately for $349 / £309. • 1 yr. Here you can also adjust settings to make it bigger, smaller, and the amount of material used to make it. It makes the support w go a lot farther. Both filaments are BambuLab - PLA-CF and Support_PLA. 9s / 71. I think you are right. The lidar and analog force sensors crosscheck for an extra layer of redundancy in bed leveling. Nov 1, 2023 · molusk77 November 1, 2023, 2:35pm 2. Hopefully they allow this functionality in future updates. Bambu Lab AMS is an intelligent system that communicates with the toolhead to guarantee smooth feeding and automatic mid-print filament switching. May 31, 2023 · In the slicer (with an AMS), you can tell it to change filament at layer 188 and again at layer 189 to accomplish this automatically. 2g; however the volume for the prime tower per layer requires 0. 4. I have to take apart the extruder to remove a tiny blob of filament. → Attention, it does not go into the optional prime tower, despite that one is printing before any optional . 2g as desired. 1. . Bambu Lab X1 utilizes two sets of independent sensors and an algorithm to measure the height of the nozzle relative to the bed. It can detect the tension on filament and actively adjust the feeding pace. May 10, 2023 · Turn the prime tower off not needed for this part with support interface it’s only needed for color changes on some models. I’m having the same issue. Any ideas? With 4 colors, 68% of the print time is purge / prime tower. Yes the tower is there to make sure there is good filament flow after a color change when you start printing. The MMU2S also is a giant mess of a setup as it doesnt come with an enclosure for the filaments so you will have to build something. 5mm. Sometimes the ejection lands in the plate causing print failure (movement, bad fusion), sometimes the poop is blocked within the . 33s; Filament is unloaded : 11. Yes! Add your sacrificial object. Sep 8, 2023 · For example if its normally going to purge 1g out the back, and needs to prime 0. In BambuStudio, the preview is fine. 15 if you want a straight edge, 0. 08, or minimizing the vertical height of objects of a different color. There must be a way to get the machine to purge / swap colors quicker without affecting quality too much. 2mm profile, default speed. The prime tower is to build up pressure in the nozzle. In a nutshell, the project contains a bunch of blocks with all color combinations (up to 8 colors to begin with) and you can tune the Flushing Multiplier and check, if any color bleed occurs. And set the support filament ro either default or the main filament you are using. Good idea, thanks for the inspiration! Additional bror shelf (just above X1) and two AMS units, one facing to left, second to right on that shelf. Jan 8, 2002 · Add Bambu TPU 95A HF filament. Screenshot is at layer 104 as an example. • 7 mo. Set your supports to this in the Bambu Lab slicer I added a very small top Z distance do to the pla-cf might bond to good on the support W interface layers and this will help it break away. There’s a small cross piece on the back to stiffen it. Add a scroll on the export config page to show the long filament name. diezel_dave. ago AirdRigh Reducing prime tower? For some of my prints I have a lot more filament going into purge and prime than I do the finished model. Filament change start : 0. Basics information The values “Flushing Volume” set by the user in Bambu Studio specifies the amount of filament in mm³ that is to be pooped or to be flushed into an object. Thanks! I noticed they put boundaries on it you cant move it closer to edge of build plate, and you can’t rotate it. ) Of course expect a longer print time when you adjust the purge and/or prime tower (not a lot more, but more time regardless) but if it’ll yield a better end result, the extra time is negligible. 53s; I redo the tests after making more change to the g-code : Purge tower : Width 4mm, Prime Volume 1mm³; Step time in second / Total time in second - Fulshing volume : 107. mdeb waoj yuxg eir fiyu jpdjc vvkvim neoa wja knp}